# include <bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
#define int long long
const int INF=0x7FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF;
string s,str;
signed main(){
	ios::sync_with_stdio(false);
	cin.tie(NULL); cout.tie(NULL);
    getline(cin,s);
	getline(cin,str);
    for(char&ch:s){
		ch=tolower(ch);
	}
	for(char&ch:str){
		ch=tolower(ch);
	}
	s=' '+s+' ';
	str=' '+str+' ';
	if(str.find(s)==string::npos){
		cout<<-1;
	}
	else{
		int dex=0,sum=0;
		while((dex=str.find(s,dex))!=string::npos){
		    sum++;
			dex+=s.length();
		}
		cout<<sum<<" ";
		cout<<str.find(s);
	}
	return 0;
}