#include <bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
char sa[15],sb[1000010],c;
int pos;
int main() {
scanf("%s",sa+1);
int la = strlen(sa+1), lb = 0;
getchar();
while(1) {
scanf("%c",&c);
if(c=='\n') break;
sb[++lb] = c;
}
for(int i=1; i<=la; i++)
if('A'<=sa[i] && sa[i]<='Z')
sa[i]+=32;
for(int i=1; i<=lb; i++)
if('A'<=sb[i] && sb[i]<='Z')
sb[i]+=32;
int ok = 0, p = 0;
sb[0] = ' ',sb[++lb] = ' ';
for(int i=1; i<=lb-la+1; i++) {
int cnt = 0 , p = i;
for(int j=1; j<=la; j++) {
if(sa[j]==sb[i+j-1]) cnt++;
else break;
}
if(sb[p-1]==' ' && sb[p+la]==' ') {
if(ok==0 && cnt==la) {
pos=i;
}
if(cnt==la) {
ok++;
}
}
}
if(ok) printf("%d %d",ok,pos-1);
else printf("-1");
return 0;
}