#include <bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
char sa[15],sb[1000005],c;
int main() {
scanf("%s",sa+1);
scanf("%c",&c);
int la = strlen(sa+1);
int lb = 0;
while(1) {
scanf("%c",&c);
sb[++lb] = c;
if(c=='\n')
break;
}
for(int i=1; i<=la; i++)
if('A'<=sa[i] && sa[i]<='Z')
sa[i] = sa[i]-'A'+'a' ;
for(int i=1; i<=lb; i++)
if('A'<=sb[i] && sb[i]<='Z')
sb[i] = sb[i]-'A'+'a' ;
int p=-1,cnt=0,flag=1;
for(int i=1; i<=lb-la+1; i++) {
int ok=1;
for(int j=1; j<=la; j++) {
if(sa[j]!=sb[i+j-1]) {
ok = 0;
break;
}
}
if(ok) {
if((i==1 && sb[i+la]==' ')
|| (i==lb-la && sb[i-1]==' ')
|| (i>1 && i<lb-la && sb[i-1]==' ' && sb[i+la]==' ')) {
cnt++;
if(flag) {
p = i;
flag=0;
}
}
}else{
}
}
if(cnt==0)
printf("-1");
else
printf("%d %d",cnt,p-1);
return 0;
}