第 8 个点：

3 3 3
SAM
SANDY
SUE
SAM: I am not guity. Am I???
SUE: SANDY is guity.
SANDY: SUE is guity.
[answer is Cannot Determine]

第 11 个点：

2 1 9
HELLO
GUILTY
HELLO: What is your name?
HELLO: Today is Friday.
HELLO: Today is Monday.
HELLO: Today is Tuesday.
HELLO: Today is Wednesday.
HELLO: Today is Saturday.
HELLO: Today is Sunday.
HELLO: Today is Thursday.
GUILTY: Are you guilty?
[answer is impossible]

但是这两个点本质是一样的，因为都没有任何关于谁是罪犯的要素。